Calibration pushing deep into buildplate

There is info over here on how to turn on these options, but it isn’t recommended.

My A350 came with the factory and Experiment listed right out of the box. The Factory option is in Chinese. I was wondering why they had those options.

I haven’t seen a response to my warranty request on my damaged print bed. I am not able to use 3d printing at all based on it not calibrating. My favorite part is when it pushes so far down on the print bed that it moves the bed with it to the next calibration spot. Pause freezes so it is a hard power off.

Hi, sorry for the late response. Could you send me a PM about your ticket number and I will have a representative look into your case soon!

This is the development option of the android screen. Probably someone from the production forgot to reset your machine before packing it :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: If you want to “hide it”, just go to Experiment -> Preference -> reset all. This option would clear out the 3D printing calibration, probably from the laser as well. But not the EEPROM from the controller, thus the setting done through serial by using G and M gcodes.

If you want to activate the development option again (for example to dim the brightness of the screen), Go to setting -> about machine, and then tap on the screen about 5 or more times consecutively. So basically how you activate the development option on a standard android as well.

One thing I discovered recently, is if there is a small blob of material on the nozzle, that can make it do the “Press into printbed” problem.
I noticed this on my last attempt, carefully cleaned off the nozzle, then it worked.

It might be better if the bed-distance detector could be set so that it assumes the nozzle is a couple of mm longer, and detects the bed well before the nozzle gets close.

Then you need to set the proximity sensor down a bit. They have a fixed range (3mm in this case)

My nozzle stops 1-2mm above the print surface. You can see when the inductive proximity sensor is switching by the red light on the side.

Thomas, same happened to me always on calibration point 5. I would “Reset All” and it was corrected this worked for about 5 times now I’m stuck. After some times the printer started and went downwards and crushed the top-layer of my buildplate. Started working with some technicians at Snapmaker but it seems there are more problems. My USB ports do not recognize any of my USB-sticks so I cannot get any log-files nor can I upgrade the software.

But for now I’m very disappointed as I can’t get it working correctly.

I just assembled my a350. I took my time with it and double-checked and triple-checked everything as I went. When I start it up the ONLY choice I have is to perform the bed calibration. No option to do anything else, or even to stop it.

It seems to do points 1-4 just fine, when it gets to point 5, it drives deep into the bed, and it has left a nasty hole in the bed mat now.

Why hasn’t snapmaker provided an official answer for this?

-mg

You can turn off auto-calibration and try doing it manually.

@CasaDelGato
There is no option to do this… when I power on, the only option is to go through with calibration.

you can cheat the auto calibration with either holding the print module to the with your hand or hold the magnetic print surface in your hand and some distance above the heat bed.

I would also recommend checking the proximity sensor before by holding the print surface up to the print module and check the red light on the proximity sensor.

@SchnabsiX Thanks for the input… but, I don’t understand exactly what mean by “with either holding the print module to the with your hand”, but it sounds like you are saying fight the Z-axis stepper motors by grabbing it and using arm strength to prevent it from hitting the bed… then what? it errors out or something and allows me to get to other menu options? This option makes me a bit nervous.

Your other suggestion frightens me, because the magnetic bed didn’t stop it the first time, I don’t see how raising it would change its “mind” on the issue.

I’ve sunk too much $ into this to risk damaging it… I cannot help it if damages itself, but I don’t want to invalidate the warranty because I tried to force the machine into operating in a way it wasn’t designed to operate. I have asked for help from snapmaker on this… if I do something like this, it would need to be under their advisement. Not that I don’t trust you, or that I don’t think you know what you are doing… I just cannot afford to have a $1500 paper weight if something goes wrong. I hope you understand, but I think I’ll wait to see what they say on this. We are on day 3, and I have not heard from them. Hopefully they will respond soon. If not, this weekend, I’ll pull it all apart and try again…

What I meant is, that you shouldn’t fix the print head to the x-axis with the screws, but to hold it there with your hand (ofc just for testing the calibration routine). So you can directly prevent the nozzle from burring into the print surface. (maybe also have the other hand on the off switch for safety)

With rising the print surface by hand gives you the time to switch the machine off before it damages something. Also you can test the proximity sensor without the calibration routine.

Oh! I got you now. Yes, I could see how that would be helpful… Thanks!

btw, I did hear from snapmaker. Apparently there is another thread out there that addresses a similar issue, but didn’t come up when I searched. There are some suggested procedures there. I’ll be tackling this this weekend. Between the suggestions here and in that thread, I feel well equipped to do this.

Thanks gain.

-mg

The other thread: Snapmaker official response to print head gouging?

You can also test/trick the inductive sensor with the metal scraper. The sensor is the little piece that sits at the back right of the print module. Just put the scrapper blade under it and it should sense it as if it is the expected metal in the print bed. That will get you past the initial calibration.

The other thing you likely will need to do is adjust the sensor to be about 1mm up from the print head tip.

These are the steps I used:

1)Have the machine powered off.
2) Attach your print module to the bottom half of the mounting bracket. Basically attach it so that the top screws are mounted where the bottom screws would usually goes. Yes, this means that your print module is hanging very low. Do NOT try to run your machine like this for obvious reasons. The following steps are all done with the power off. This is so that the module is level and steady, and the sensor screw is accessible.
3) Manually position the X & Y axis more towards their centers so that when you lower the Z axis the print head is over the bed. Carefully lower it until the nozzle is just touching the plate.
4) Use something that is 1mm thick (a credit card perhaps), and adjust the sensor down to where it is touching this. The screw is on the back of the module, the bottom left if you are looking at it from behind.
5) Re-attach the print module back in the proper spot.

This should get it to where it won’t be digging into your build surface.

You’ll then need to recalculate your Z-offset that’s set in the firmware to keep from having to adjust it a lot from the touchscreen every time you start a print. I used the quick and dirty that is shown here: https://marlinfw.org/docs/gcode/M851.html

After that I ran my calibration again after heating my bed to 70C.

That didn’t get it wholly perfect. I was still having to raise it by .1mm during the print start to consistently get a good layer, but I currently have it set as an offset in my slicer and it has been working perfectly.

If people need a video of the sensor adjustment I spoke of, I can do that either later tonight or tomorrow. I currently have a print going that will finish at some point tonight. Just depends on if I have enough time before I’d normally go to bed.

I should also note that the other part of my issue was a severely warped build plate. Once I swapped to my spare that was not warped as far as I could tell I had very good layers and adhesion all over.

Well I decided to give the auto leveling another try today so I did an M502 to reset to factory, took my glass bed off and put my the stock steel sheet on. Enabled auto cal and fast cal then did an auto calibration and adjusted the Z at the center point and saved. Verified the settings changed with an M503. Sliced a model in Luban with the fast settings and placed them on the USB factory stick. Transferred the USB to the printer and kicked off the print from the touchscreen. The process started, it performed a quick calibration, heated up and began to print the skirt around my model. I had to adjust live Z by +0.15 during the skirt to get a somewhat decent layer and then disaster struck. The skirt completed and the nozzle dove at least 3mm into the bed as it tried to start on the actual part. It dragged the print sheet back and to the right once it could no longer plow thru the sheet. Luckily I was watching but could not get to the power switch on the back of the PSU quick enough.

Is there a fix for this in firmware yet @Rainie ?
What do I do about my gouged build sheet?

Another odd experience with this issue.
I’ve successfully printed multiple pieces over multiple weeks.
Started on a big complex piece (25 min for Cura to slice, several minute to just download to the SnapMaker, another 5 minutes or so for Snapamaker to parse it)
Started print - and quickly noticed that print was sticking. (different brand of filament) Layers look ok, but didn’t stick.
switched to a small piece to adjust print settings for the new filament.
Switched back to the BIG print.
Auto calibration started pressing into the bed at spot 1.
Power off, power back on, try Full calibration.
Same thing, pushes into bed at spot 1.
Power off, leave it for 30 minutes.
Try again, Full calibration made it to spot 3 or 4 before pushing into the bed.
I’ll try again in the morning.
I’m starting to wonder if there is some kind of over-heating issue with the sensor?

Diving after the print starts sounds more like a Slicer problem.
You could try using Cura to see if that makes a difference.

Mine has never dug in during auto cal. It also has not done the suicide dive when using Prusa Slicer. On this latest attempt I used all factory settings (except filament temp) and sliced in Luban. My issue is my bed is so warped I can’t get a consistent first layer.

What support did tel you about this problem ?