I would like to see some sort of web based control (or even a smartphone app) for the Snapmaker 2.0.
At a bare minimum, a status page would be nice, so you can check work progress without having to physically be at the tool
I’ve noticed a theme with 3D printing in general is that not many people have their printers right next to their computers that they regularly work on. Many of us have used 3rd party solutions (i.e. OctoPrint) to bridge this gap with other 3D printers.
The SM2, I feel, is in a different category and could benefit from a Native solution.
I know about OctoPrint. Used it on my Tevo Tornado. Used it even more on my Tronxy X5S. But neither of those even came close to the specs of the SM2. Also, I tried OctoPrint with my A350, and just didn’t like it for some reason. Maybe its because I like the intuitiveness of Snapmaker’s Interface. And when printing from OctoPrint, some built in features (Filament Runout, Power Loss Recovery) become null.
The fact that the SM2 already includes Wi-Fi was a plus to my purchasing decision. And the ability to connect from Luban via Wi-Fi and send a print directly to the machine is great.
I prefer to not print directly from my PC so I use the Send Via Wi-Fi option for pretty much every print. But once printing, cannot check status without physically going to the printer, or guessing how much is done from viewing my camera.
A Remote interface native to the Snapmaker 2.0 I feel is a great way to add more control options for users.
Agreed it would be great! I am sure it is planned for the future. An app would be even better with a potential future control camera so that we can check what’s going on, with maybe push notification functions!
It appears to me that the touchscreen is essentially an Android phone (which is essentially Linux), so from a functionality perspective the touchscreen should be able to run Octoprint natively.
I’ve been looking to find the specifications for this but haven’t found anything that could confirm my understanding.
Hi. Since I have managed to implement all necessary Commands and Buttons to manage my A350 using octoprint, I have never used the touch screen nor Luban again.
My combination with CURA & Octoprint works perfect. In Addition I control my Exhaust FAN and LED Light of my Enclosure.
With the new spool manager plugin (currently I have over 30 different filament spools) the print history plugin and many many other great plugins octoprint is currently the best web based control for my snapmaker 2.0 A350…
Sure you need some time to invest and optimise octoprint for you, but after you come round this you get a perfect remote management tool. Even per anroid app (remote controlled)…
Beautiful OctoPrint Setup. I wouldn’t mind knowing how you got everything working. Does filament runout and Power Loss Recovery work?
And like I stated in my original post, OctoPrint is great.
But, I just think that if the SM2 could provide something natively (even if it runs a variation of OctoPrint in it’s firmware such as @ITmaze mentioned) it would only add to the draw of the machine. If its a feature a lot of people are going to use anyway, why not make it native? And that’s my push here.
I have to figure this out, but if I am not completely wrong everything should be part of octoprint’s configuration file. And you are fully right, there are also some negative effects of it.
No filament Sensor status handover is part of snapmakers firmware, so at the moment no such “trigger information” could not be handed over to octoprint per gcode
I haven’t tested it, but I think I have seen such plugin for other 3d printers. Maybe such plugin could handle the power loss, and the print job could be re-covered, cause octoprint would manage everything and could handle the print job if the communication to SM2 would be interrupted.
But as an alternative you could use a UPS (Universal Power Supply) to come over a power failure of 10 to 20 minutes with a small invest. Any small IT UPS cost 100 to 200 EUR / USD with the appropriate power. SM2 need max at 260 to 300 Watts (i have a power meter to monitor the power usage of my SM2).
On the other hand the main advantages I see in using octoprint as the main server to remote control the SM2 are much higher than the cons mentioned above.
Fully migrated and Web based
Web Cam
Customize any Button / command Controll e.g. to change filament (multi color Print) with Cura or any maintenance work using Marlin GCodes.
Enclosure trigger to maintain LED, FAN and Sensor are GCode based to control them with octoprint.
Stop / Start / and customize the web interface
almost a hundred of plugins. Heavy Update and development.
Full Control of WIFI / G-Code File Transfer & Reusability of Print Jobs
Re-download over WIFI of Print Jobs (its G-Code file)
Data Backup Routines of gcode / configuration (daily, and so on …)
Filament Manager & Print History …
and real time G-Code 3D Simulation of Print Job.
So all negative aspects in using LUBAN and WIFI (touch screen) with the current sw and firmware release have been overcome with octoprint.
Find attached the necessary configuration of my Octoprint setup.
Please note, that this is not the full set up of octoprint, which will be generated by octoprint and any necessary plugin themself.
Below you find the configuration of the plugin “Custom Control Editor (0.2.2)” to remote controll Snapmaker as shown in my screenshot starting with line “controls”: Before you find a list of Plugins i have used. But this depends on what you need and want to use.
I would suggest that you use the editor of Custom Control within the webgui, and you should not directry edit the octoprint config file “config.yaml”. This because I run into several issues that octoprint did not start anymore because of some config file mismatches in my manually edited code.
But you can figure out any gcode i have used. Feel free to edit this according to your needs.
I’m running Octoprint on an rpi 3 with my Ender. 3 and like you, a 4 with 2gb on my A350. Web response is much faster.
But I’ll say I spend much more time in Astroprint than I do the Octoprint interface. The are at least two things it has which I love over Octoprint alone:
Afraid it requires some hardware to speak to the printer and the cloud service. I came across Octoprint first, so ended up with the plugin for it, but they have other options which range in cost and DIY preference.
If not clear, I’m running Octoprint on a raspberry pi. You can get the gear for ~$40-90. I like Sparkfun.com.
I just wanted to add that Luban is actually already built with web based tech, it is simply wrapped in a basic Electron wrapper for packaging. You can open built-in Chrome dev tools available from the toolbar to inspect the HTML of the application at runtime and break it with the interactive JS console. I would assume any SnapMaker official interfaces would thusly, and unfortunately, be based on exercising Luban more versus anything new and novel that might actually be competitive to the listed options here. It certainly seems feasible to run Luban as a server hosted on the printer itself with some adjustments, making it self contained, but it would still probably be Luban .
Note: The dev tools can be used to inspect the network traffic while talking to the printer for anyone looking to replicate Luban’s API usage.
I want to concur with this. The folks that do heavy numerical work, such as is needed with CAD/CAM, tend not to work with javascript, and that’s a good decision regarding technical quality. At the very least, the libraries that would be required for this don’t exist in javascript, and it would economically foolish to rewrite them.
What Snapmaker ought to do is to license some competently-written software for its customers. I’m not holding my breath.
Any news to this? Is there anything planned to be implemented in an update?
I too would appreciate at least a “read only” web interface as this could be accessible via PC or Mobile alike by bookmarking.
More control of course would be even nicer and I admit OctoPrint is really pretty, but I would want to avoid another equipment.
I saw plenty about accessing the API but I don’t get yet how to use it… is there a more or less basic how to / guide somewhere ? (I defineatly haven’t checked all there is yet as I only recently acquired my Printer.)
I might be stretching out of context here … (if this belongs somewhere else, let me know)
It seems (based on what I’ve read so far) that Luban picks its Port at random for each User/Machine, for me it’s : http://127.0.0.1:50281/#/3dp
The Browser opens but after a very short loading symbol, I end up on a blank Page !?!?!?
I run Luban v3.13.1 on Windows.
On the Touchscreen I can find out that the Controller Version is 1.8.0.1_20200603.
Apart from that, I could not find the actual firmware versions yet.
I feel a bit at a loss here … (It might be me …)
This is my Settings menu:
I am somewhat surprised about the slim menus …
Aehm… writing an interface is not in my plans … if at some point it annoys me too much I just might, but for now I still need to get settled with my new Toy ;).
I got a few Ideas in my head to tweak around here and there but nothing touching the internal organs.
If you / anyone can point me to what I’m missing here I’d appreciate it =).
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