just had a remarkable surprise on how much the slicer matters!
I recently watched this video by Thomas Sanladerer where he advertises the new features of PrusaSlicer 2.3, and since a) I think that Tom is a clever guy, b) there are really some nice features in it (variable layer hight for example) and c) was increasingly frustrated with the strange GCode Cura was producing with the newer versions, having many head travels I did not understand, I decided to give it a try. I am really surprised about the difference! I was not expecting the slicer to solve some problems I attributed to old and/or wet filament or (shame on me) to Snapmaker’s inferior part cooling. I ran more or less the same part once through Cura, and once through Prusa slicer. You could already hear the difference while printing: Cura’s GCode sounded harsh with audible discontinuities, while the Prusa GCode made for smooth movements with continuous, smooth gradients in the stepper noise. It seems that Cura interpolates differently as compared to Prusa slicer - but admittedly that’s just guessing.
Whatever, here are comparisons (Same calibration, same PLA, same A350, same mostly everything) between the Cura and the Prusa sliced parts - left: Cura, right: Prusa. The difference is obvious!
I’ve read on Facebook many people that complain about scars, tiny protrusions on their print surfaces - and that’s exactly what I have with Cura (second image), and which is completely gone with Prusa Slicer. On the first image you see kindof the reverse artifacts as ditches.
Last remark: If you don’t want the Prusa branding - PrusaSlicer is a fork of Slic3r - so go there if you prefer, although I did not check if the performance is the same.
That’s really cool. I used prusaslicer for my SLA… worked really well.
I had a similar experience! Latest version of Prusa slicer works really nice for me.
Thanks for sharing. Testing the new prusa slicer was on my todo list but didn’t try yet as so far Luban actually just works for me.
But now you definitely pushed it higher on my todo list
Had started to look into Prusaslicer but couldn’t find decent presets/profile for SM.
Didn’t have time nor the energy to go in and input the settings.
Anybody have these?
I had gotten slic3r (not Prusa, but the open-source original) working, but have yet to spend much time dialing it in for better results. Maybe I should get back to that. I have noticed that gcode sliced with it seems to be better optimised for speed than Luban or Cura gcode, even when starting with the same STL file and similar settings.
Here’s my current PrusaSlicer profile - but that’s an early start, maybe there’s room for improvement.
Remark: ich changed the path to the SVG-logo file to a relative path - hope that works.
And: I am just starting with the software - not sure if I exported correctly.
PrusaSlicer.zip (10.1 KB)
EDIT: It’s for A350…
EDIT EDIT: Beware of a slightly different behaviour of the GCode/Printer:
- First, only bed heats up
- Then, head moves to corner of printing bed
- Then the head heads up
- Then it moves to start of print, not oozing a primer beforehand
- Because of that, actual print will start a bit delayed since nozzle pressure needs to build up first.
Hey Hauke, thank you for posting this Prusa file. I have a Prusa i3 Mk2.5 as well as the A350.
Im no expert with printing but to be honest, you don’t have to be with a Prusa… its a ‘Relentless printing machine’.
I find the PrusaSlicer good to use and would like to use it with the A350, when I finish faffing around with the Laser and want to print something large.
Hauke, I would very much appreciate a tutorial on how to put this into my A350 (or how to use it with…) so that I can slice with the P-Slicer. I have no clue how to do this and have shy’ed away when I read things like editing Gcode or M190 commands…etc
Could you help me out please?
Thanks for your time on this, Stay Safe
Interesting… I use CURA mainly and get good surface quality results. There are a few settings buried down in’ expert’ or ‘show all settings’ that can affect print surface quality, especially outer surface. One of the main ones is in the shell settings in the compensate flow for outer walls and inner walls and the % amount. Its on by deafult and can cause surface finish issues. So might just be settings rather than CURA itself.
But i will have a go with PrusaSlicer at somepoint again as moved away from it a while back when it was just Slic3r
Got similar feedback on Facebook, John Alred pointing me to his profiles, which you can find here. I’ll give them a try with some next print to come, and see if it makes a difference. Still, PrusaSlicer appeals to me for its UI, and its rather fast! So maybe I’ll shift permanently anyhow…
As I said, I am just starting to play around with PrusaSlicer myself. I suppose here’s what you need to do to use my settings:
- Unzip my ZIP file somewhere
- In PrusaSlicer, use “Help” -> “Show Config Folder”
- Put the SVG file from my ZIP into the folder that opens
- Now use “File” -> “Import” -> “Import Config” to import the .ini-FIles in my ZIP.
After that, “Snapmaker 2 A350” should be available from the printer and printer settings drop-downs. Also, my PLA and PETG profile should be there if you want, but those are definitely not to be rcommended without adjustment - they where fine for my print, but are not necessary good for any print.
From there on it should be in no way different from working with your Prusa printer.
Let me know if you need more assistance!
Thank You Hauke!
You da Man!
Sweet. Ill do that now.
Btw.: There’s another post on PrusaSlicer where another SM2 profile was published - potentially more mature than mine…: Prusa Slicer Profile
Hi all, I also was disapointed with my first couple of prints on the A350 using Luban, and at first I had it as wet or damp fillament or something or the other.
I have the original prusa I3 Mk3s and the prusa mini, and have been using the prusa slicer with my prusa machines for a while.
To my surprise printing on Snapmaker using prusa slicer solved just about all my problems.
I am yet to try the new version of prusa.
Is Slic3r still being developed? The release notes from the latest version appear to have a 2018 date.
Since Prusa Slicer is based on Slic3r, is it that stale as well? Old software isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but a lot has changed in 3D printing in the last 2 years.
The last commit to Slic3r’s Github repository was in late August of 2020—they just haven’t packaged a formal release. Github indicates that more than a thousand people have forked the code, so it’s pretty certain that someone, somewhere is working on it and will eventually issue a pull request. What I have installed is not the release version from 2018, but what they had on Github as of a couple of months ago.
PrusaSlicer is definitely under active development. They only just released version 2.3. And it’s their strategic software for their popular and successful printer eco system - would be really surprised if they’d ditch it, and likelihood is high that they - being obvious friends of open source - will give back their improvements also to Slic3r.
I noticed the other day that there is also a CLI interface available. That seems like a nice way to do post-processing for any tool that outputs “raw” g-code or STL for example.
I find prusaslicer UI much more intuitive. I used cura for a while but as soon as I tried PS I was sold. Only thing I miss is tree support!
I have used Cura for a number of years but recently I have found a few issues so I thought I would give Prusa a go. I am not sure I have sorted out the relationship between snapshots, profiles and physical printers but the interface is a lot simpler. The tabs make it easy to find what you need and a lot easier than the endless list of visible and hidden options in Cura.
Output also seems to be cleaner. Last problem I had with Cura was the lock tab on the front of this box. In Cura it just disappeared when sliced. In Prusa it worked without issue. Could be a problem with the STL - Prusa did say that it auto repaired 346 errors! But Prusa fixed it and Cura didn’t.
Prusa also integrates seamlessly with OctoPrint so I don’t loose that Cura “send to OctoPrint” option that’s a must have for me.
Good to have two slicers that work well and I can choose either depending on the capabilities I want without impacting my workflow - or getting out of my chair!