@Blockmodule I really suggest using the Support Ticket Form for these requests. It has more impact.
Also, there is this - Snapmaker 2 milling kit for the brass nut in the linear axis by gojoetofly - Thingiverse
@Blockmodule I really suggest using the Support Ticket Form for these requests. It has more impact.
I’ve submitted a support ticket to Snapmaker, and their responses are always the same.
Snapmaker 2.0’s flatness of the Linear Modules causes tilting issues when placing something heavy on one side, like the Rotary Module, making it unable to maintain horizontal alignment and prone to twisting. Snapmaker completely ignores this phenomenon.
Naturally, this condition is more pronounced in the A350 model. However, they refuse to acknowledge it and ignore any mentions of it on the forum.
I believe the Bracing Kit is not something they sell but rather a substitute for the initial design flaw.
When the Rotary Module is attached, there’s over 1mm of leaning at both ends of the Y-axis.
Why do buyers remain silent in such a situation? It’s perplexing.
Thanks for the link to the brass nut. How many people actually need to perform such modifications?
Snapmaker has discontinued the production of POM resin nuts for the Linear Modules, and they claim there is no supply.
I own three Snapmaker 2.0 A250 units. I have eight spare Linear Modules, and I rotate them while performing bearing replacement maintenance. It’s manageable as long as the play adjustment for the POM screws is possible. However, in the future, the unavailability of a single resin screw (costing only a few dollars) will render an entire Linear Module useless.
Ideally, I’d appreciate a maintenance kit with four bearings and one POM resin screw. Also, the internal motor and replacement board for the Linear Module.
This is not just any cheap 3D printer. I think Snapmaker 2.0 is fantastic, but it could be even better with comprehensive coverage for replacement parts in the after-sales service.
The fact that Snapmaker is selling the “Bracing Kit” implies, in a sense, an acknowledgment of the occurrence of tilting in the Table.
Shouldn’t it stay level even with the Rotary Module attached?
Naturally, with a tilted orientation, the depth of machining will vary, leading to tool breakage or biting issues.
Isn’t this one of the causes for things not going well?
Doesn’t anyone else think about this?
Including those, like myself, who are using Snapmaker 2.0 for CNC machining and making modifications – is no one saying anything about it?
@Blockmodule from what I’ve seen a lot of people speak out, but Snapmaker doesn’t really do anything most of the time. That’s when the community starts to fix the issues on their own (like the linear rail mod or the bracing mod this kit is somewhat based on). Snapmaker is still first and foremost a commercial company, so in this case they probably figured it was was worth it to invest in the R&D of an official bracing kit so that they can sell 200W CNC modules to more people.
In my view, Snapmaker is not really marketing itself towards tinkerers like you. They’re more geared towards creating a premium product (at a premium price), aiming for the kind of customer that would prefer to buy a new linear module rather than opening it up to replace the bearings. From my experience with Snapmaker, the quality of their products isn’t quite what you would expect from a “premium product” but I guess that’s another conversation.
I did a check on the gcode, Luban doesn’t care if you select the 50W or 200W CNC, the output is the same…M3 P100.
this might be too early to check
Wanted to share some insiders info on this, as I’ve been one of the lucky participants in close pre-release testing. I had the bracing kit and standard CNC module to test. It was fun, we had to follow instructions and run test files with 3DP, Laser and CNC.
Here is a slow motion of how bracing kit affects the bed move. Keep in mind - the machine I used receives regular maintenance. But you can still see the difference.
Everybody in the group agreed that the bracing kit improves things dramatically. Of course, if you put a few pounds on the furthest edge, things will flex. But in real world such load never occurs.
It took me about an hour or so to install all the components, basically plug and play and no update for the firmware needed in my case. People with 200w module on hand had a special firmware for this.
No special tools, no extra drilling, easy. All axis included.
There was a lot of feedback. I mean a ton, from every participant. Snapmaker team listened and most of it you see in the product being release. From price point to the smallest details about PM wheels.
Feel free to ask questions if you have any.
Also check out post by @canislupus (in google translation) - Snapmaker 2.0 Bracing Kit test/加固套件测试 - Snapmaker 2.0 - Snapmaker: where creation happens
Thank you @Jade for inviting!
You referring to my post? Why is it too early? There is no 200W, 50W, or laser specific parameters for power. M3 Pn does the same across all 3 modules, where n is % power 0-100. The gcode Luban exports for 50W A250 or 200W Artisan is IDENTICAL.
Hi @nweolu, thanks for sharing your insights! How is it with the milling debris that settles on the Y-axis linear modules: I can imagine that the wheels of the braces roll through it, and that debris piles up, or larger splinters get caught by the wheels and cause inconsistencies in the movement. Did you observe anything in that regard?
As you rightly pointed out, despite being aware of the issues, Snapmaker has chosen to observe them passively and turn them into a business opportunity. Many users have taken matters into their own hands, modifying and sharing information to address these issues. However, these efforts mainly address problems that arise from regular use (especially for A350 users or those who purchased the heavy Rotary Module), and only specific enthusiasts seem to be raising their voices.
Is it normal for the bed to tilt just by placing the Rotary Module on it during regular use? Some argue on Facebook that it’s just a toy, so it shouldn’t be compared to industrial-grade equipment. However, if Snapmaker products are composed of what they sell, is it normal for the bed to tilt?
Some users on this forum have remarked that Snapmaker has transitioned into a more Apple-like business model, selling premium products. I agree with this sentiment.
Selling at a premium price and suggesting to buy a linear module in case of a malfunction seems to be the approach. Just because a few dollars’ worth of bearings and POM resin are not readily available…
If Snapmaker widens its support for parts replacement and turns it into a profitable venture, it could provide a broader range of options for both heavy and casual users, benefiting everyone.
It’s not about endless criticism without any constructive discussions.
As an enthusiast who owns three Snapmaker A250s and has purchased multiple options, I say this because I care.
Hello,in reading your post I noticed that you mentioned replacing the bearings. I am looking to do that myself. Would you happen to have a part number or link for those bearings?
@Jade , is there a Chance that the 40W will become compatible with the A150 with this bracing kit?
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Hi everyone, in the spirit of transparency and community involvement, we are excited to share a summary of the Bracing Kit user test findings with you. We hope that these insights will provide you with a comprehensive understanding of the product.
Read the blog here: Unveiling Insights from the Snapmaker 2.0 Bracing Kit User Testing Program
Nice job Jade. You’re doing good work.
I’m eager to try this myself, with the bracing kit and possibly some additional reinforcing. As I have the A250, I may have some better luck with stiffness.
I still need the discount code, will ask privately for that.
I’m wondering: with all these improvements to the 2.0 machines, it there any reason to buy an Artisan? Seems to me that the advantages of the Artisan have evaporated.
That reminds me of the old joke:
I’ve had this broom for 30 years and it’s as good as new; it’s only had two new heads and three new handles in its life!
Is anything left of the original 2.0? (Why hasn’t it been called 2.1, 2.2, 2.3,…)
It’s the Kickstarter culture. This trend follows video game development too.
Honestly, it’s been fun. I didn’t own any of these hobbies before. I made a ton of stuff with the laser… weakest area is cnc mostly from a lack of third party support that doesn’t cost $$$.
If they really wanted to open a market they’d spend their software time on 4-axis CNC… they’d be the only game in town.
Some debris can accumulate, but it doesn’t really affect the work in my experience. Metal would be heavier and I don’t expect it getting in a way.
You might notice path of wheels compressing the saw dust - but cleanup after a job makes it disappear. I didn’t have any issues with this.
Sorry for late reply, Jade created a grand post about the tech details and various challenges we met during testing - The Official Bracing Kit and 200W CNC Bundle for Snapmaker 2.0 - #52 by Jade
Certainly, it seems like there’s no need to spend a high amount on the Artisan…
The Snapmaker 2.0 A250/A350 with the blazing kit installed has increased structural strength and might be more powerful since it’s not belt-driven.
However, there are unique features that only the Artisan has, so it might depend on the budget of the person purchasing it.
I feel like I really understand what you’re trying to say
Artisan has 400x400 volume, the 350 decreases the volume with every new module. So, for me, you get a bigger Maschine for same amount…
Calculate the a350t + quickswap + 10W + rigidity + 200w CNC + emergency stop + dual extruder.
If I have to start from scratch, I would buy an Artisan…