Klicky probe - bed leveling on anything! Stealth mod for single extruder

Stealth Klicky Probe for Single Extruder

About design

Inspired by all the Klicky probes out there. I wanted to be able to level on anything reliably with simple install.
Proximity probes affected by heat. Stock probe doesn’t actually probe the surface. IR probes require heavy wiring mods on our machine.
Why klicky probes are so good - Six popular ABL probes compared: Accuracy, price, wiring and more! - YouTube
This probe doesn’t require any extra electrical components but the $3 switch. Simple wiring - a 12 year old can do.
I’m using magnets for deployment. Yes you have to move the probe down before leveling and hide it after.
You might ask - how come it doesn’t shift when probing? You need 70gr to klick the switch and >200gr to move the magnets. Clearances and friction will do the rest.
The part cooling duct had to be redesigned a bit and can use some improvement. You can avoit printing it and just cut your existing duct to be able to fit the probe. In my Gen2 extruder that part is not used for air anyway.
If there is enough demand, I can put together a kit for sale (including international) - wired switch with proper JST connector and magnets. Labor would be the 80% of the price.
Using stock build surface with craters and bumps between probing points will not give you much advantage. Just use stock probe if you not planning to use glass/garolite or other surface to print on.
It took me solid 80 hours to create the design, most of it went into recreating the extruder in CAD.

Goals of the design

  • Forget the shimming the bed all day to get the delta under 0.09.
  • Use any surface that can provide true leveling calculation i.e. has no bumps and craters.
  • Make it minimal and somewhat stealth.

BOM

What P/N QTY Link
Magnets 10mm X 5mm 3pcs https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBG1aNr
Switch WS0850100F070PA 1pc https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/e-switch/WS0850100F070PA/6613000
CA Glue Any 3 drops https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DejhHLr
Printed parts N/A ALL Printables

Print instructions

Use your favorite PETG/ASA/ABS.
I printed out of PETG - works just fine.
You have to know how to print details and somewhat accurate dimensions.
Use 0.2mm height. 100% infill for Slider and Heatsink Duct.
I used PrusaSlicer. You only need tree supports for slider magnet insert and part cooling duct (largest cavity). But I guess luban can print this stuff too.
STLs are not oriented - DIY.

Assembly instructions

Cleanup parts, check magnets fitment. Dry fit slider and the side cover. It should have smooth action, up and down.
Knob has little dimple inside - it should meet the dent in the slider to secure itself on it. Expect satisfying click.

LOOOOONG picture, to be used on the phone when assembling

How to use

Nothing changed for machine’s brains. The process is the same.
Slide the probe down, start leveling, when prompted by machine to set Z-offset - slide the probe up and set the z-offset.

Skeptics

I even run some sort of reliability test - same everything - multiple leveling runs
X0 X1 X2 X3 X4 Max 8.509
Y0 8.309 8.414 8.399 8.509 8.504 Min 8.309
Y1 8.429 8.456 8.481 8.468 8.489 Delta 0.2
Y2 8.444 8.46 8.47 8.49 8.376
Y3 8.508 8.404 8.419 8.431 8.411
Y4 8.438 8.431 8.384 8.375 8.443
X0 X1 X2 X3 X4 Max 10.865
Y0 10.669 10.77 10.753 10.856 10.841 Min 10.669
Y1 10.779 10.813 10.84 10.823 10.854 Delta 0.196
Y2 10.798 10.82 10.825 10.845 10.735
Y3 10.865 10.762 10.775 10.789 10.771
Y4 10.819 10.781 10.748 10.739 10.807
X0 X1 X2 X3 X4 Max 10.876
Y0 10.676 10.767 10.77 10.866 10.856 Min 10.676
Y1 10.789 10.818 10.842 10.83 10.858 Delta 0.2
Y2 10.804 10.823 10.833 10.849 10.741
Y3 10.876 10.769 10.781 10.794 10.781
Y4 10.802 10.795 10.761 10.749 10.785
X0 X1 X2 X3 X4 Max 10.87
Y0 10.681 10.773 10.765 10.855 10.864 Min 10.681
Y1 10.794 10.818 10.842 10.831 10.863 Delta 0.189
Y2 10.798 10.821 10.825 10.849 10.744
Y3 10.87 10.764 10.778 10.793 10.783
Y4 10.816 10.802 10.749 10.738 10.801
X0 X1 X2 X3 X4 Max 10.869
Y0 10.637 10.761 10.751 10.859 10.836 Min 10.637
Y1 10.77 10.811 10.846 10.837 10.869 Delta 0.232
Y2 10.789 10.816 10.83 10.849 10.745
Y3 10.851 10.761 10.781 10.795 10.775
Y4 10.787 10.782 10.749 10.724 10.774
0 1 2 3 4 Max 10.672
0 10.672 10.672 10.614 10.611 10.554 Min 10.427
1 10.586 10.57 10.619 10.613 10.575 Delta 0.245
2 10.604 10.524 10.563 10.604 10.521
3 10.56 10.427 10.472 10.526 10.526
4 10.492 10.431 10.495 10.471 10.476

Fun part for those who reads everything - if you want to test this - I have two switches (pre wired with connector) and two sets of magnets - send me a shipping label(pirateship.com) get them for free. PM me.

Results you should get

This is on Garolite.

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Credit to

  • Make a kit for sale - Wired switch + Magnets
  • Make a kit for sale - Printed Assembled Components + Wired switch
  • I don’t need a kit - will handle wiring and sourcing.
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FAQ

Klick me
  1. Does it work with Bi Metal heat Break?
    • YES - always check clearance
  2. Will it work with aftemarket MK8 Nozzle
    • YES - always check clearance
  3. Can I level on __________(insert material)
    • Absolutely
  4. Do I need to change anything in the firmware?
    • No
  5. Will this work with extruder Gen 1?
    • YES - use UNIVERSAL file.
  6. Do I have to use - WS0850100F070PA switch?
    • YES - if you want to use stl files provided.

ToDo

  1. Make part cooling duct better.

P.S. Where is the STL??? Read BOM.

Updates

7.21.23 - updated assembly instructions - added missing knob and rearranged steps.
7.24.23 - updated print cooling duct STL, now fits both GEN 1 and GEN2 extruders. Thanks to Win3002 for bolt pattern scan!

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Nicely done! Looks like a great mod.
So the switch itself has a repeatability accuracy error of 0.044, which is virtually the same as the stock inductive probe or a capacitance probe. All are right around that 0.04 range.

What about using a threaded shaft/nut to hold the probe in place instead of the magnets? These could be incorporated as part of the already existing 3D printed parts, and might have a stronger hold.

Unless I interpreted it wrong, the threaded shaft/nut approach has couple issues - deployment would be more time consuming and annoying. And you can’t live it deployed - it has to be below the nozzle to work. With magnets - safety built in, it would just slide up if forgotten (I actually didn’t check if it will go all the way up).
It is also weirdly satisfying af to slide it up and down.
Plus the whole probe offset issue - design avoids changing firmware in any way.

I was looking into precision switches like omron d5b, price is a bit high :slight_smile:

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updated assembly instructions - added missing knob and rearranged steps.

Just a little observation about a detail I noticed while printing ventilation docks for the nozzle. The screw holes in the dock are not exactly in the same place on the first version of the 3D printing head and the improved version that you have.

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I only have the 2nd gen head. I suspected there might be a compatibility issue but unless someone provides measurements - I can’t do much.
Best way is to put the back of the print head (where all the screws are) on the scanner with millimeter ruler close to it and scan. This way the image will be flat, not distorted and ruler and the head face on the same level. I could make accurate sketch from the image like this…

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:blush:

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Sent you a PM with stl to try.

je vais l’essayer dans les prochains jours :slight_smile:

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No rush :slight_smile:

Uploaded STL for partcooling duct that will work on GEN 1 extruders.

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Looking for dual extruder detailed pictures and dimensions to adopt the klicky probe for it.

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Very nice. I can probably get you some pics and dims since i just removed mine.

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Would be nice :slight_smile:
If you have an opportunity to scan the back side of it with a ruler and get some info on how current probe attached to the housing would be nice.
It seems to be tight in there but duable.
Also distance from housing to the nozzle tip without cover…

I have here a quick little video of some of the characteristics to consider and a series of photos to give some basic initial dimensions

(Video is processing may take a bit)…

If you want something specific, i will be glad to work with you to get what you want

The nozzle tip is kind of a complicated topic as youll see from the video, but one of the photos does show this

I suspect the existing sensor mount location would be an ideal place to try it at but id be interested to see what you come up with.






















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This is quite useful. Let me throw together a model to see what’s missing. I might have everything between two sets of pics I received.

Thank you so much! I’ll keep this updated.

it’s a little and inconsequential thing but updating the name of the Printables to be “v1 and v2 universal fit” would be good. I had a mini panic attack as I reread the forums certain you had done this work, which you had. :slight_smile:

Will update people on the good word of klicky once I do the install.

Sorry, do you mean the name of downloadable file from printables?

Just the name of the page is what i noticed. I was getting set-up last night and saw the title just saying “2nd Gen” and was like “no! I know I read 1st gen worked” and went reading in a panic is all.

It’s just buried in the forum, which we should be reading thoroughly anyways.

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Done, I’ve removed gen two from the title and added info in summary and “Additional information” section about compatibility.
I can see how it was confusing. Thank you for pointing out!

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