Snapmaker Rotary Module Materials, Tools, and Models

Here I offer you a converter model with which you can put the material on the chuck. You can glue the square material on it.

You need to calculate the radius by yourself.


square2round_converter.stl (45.7 KB)

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Thank you, Edwin. 3D printing the converter is a great solution.

It may need some patience to carve the square materials with the rotary module. You need to calculate the diameter of the outer circle of the square. The whole workflow is the same as the one with the cylinder material.

Please let me know if you need any help from us.
Edwin

@herbweiner Yes I am using them for the 3-axis, for the 4-axis I am a little new on, it would be great if you could do a rough pass then a finish pass for the 4-axis don’t know if it is possible as I only have the free version of Fusion360 and I believe to be waiting on the files for importation to Fusion360. For the bits I seem to have tracked down a couple however if I am not mistaken they would require the collet pack mentioned above.

I now have a customizable Round to Square adapter on Thingiverse. As an alternative to glue, you can screw the material to the adapter. Or, you can use a second adapter with the tailstock to avoid glueing or screwing the material: Snapmaker 4-axis CNC Round to Square Adapter by herbw - Thingiverse.

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Thank you for sharing this Round to Square adapter here.

As for the question you raised about the difference between the STL and the process image in Luban, our software engineer said this is a bug in the ‘Linkage’ mode.

The simulation image of the BallInCase (left image) is not accurate enough, and the rotary module can carve the rectangular block according to toolpath, showing in the G-code.
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But, there is a bug with “Linkage” mode, which means the model will be sliced in a different. This is the reason why you get a strange result.
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Our software engineer is looking into this case and will try to fix this problem.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
Edwin

When will a new version appear to solve this bug.
Very distressed about this problem

                                                                      jerrychen

Basic CNC Viewer can help you view and check how the model will be carved, I’ve found it very helpful and now use it to check the gcode produced by other software too.

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@albutch this is where Luban suffers. I use Aspire (full version, get to that in a sec) and some people that also use Aspire trial version found that if imported into Luban (unnecessary but they didn’t know) it is all screwed up, the reverse is also true. When importing one generated by Luban, it is also all screwed up in Aspire. Yet Aspire has absolutely zero issues when the same is done between other CNC software. Aspire is professional software and was never intended for any one machine, as such they are always increasing prebuilt compatibility for different workflows.

Now to the full version that I purchased and mentioned, Luban will completely crash if I had used certain gadgets (trial version difference: can’t save toolpaths, can’t use downloadable gadgets) and it just locks up Luban and throws a critical exception. Yet the Snapmaker is perfectly capable of doing all the gadgets so it’s something in Luban that isn’t right.

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Perhaps Snapmaker should provide a proper process for accepting bug reports, I know that can be done via GitHub but something more accessable to all users would be a good thing, most 3rd party software costs as much as the machine if not more. With a little effort Luban could become a very usable product, e.g. Linking toolpaths for use with the rotary module, known in the outside world I believe as Continuous or Real 4th axis. As far as I know Aspire cannot do that yet (tell me if I’m wrong) maybe Fusion 360 can, I don’t know as my license ran out 2 weeks before my delivery from Snapmaker.

Incidentally, I created toolpaths for roughing and finishing an STL file in Aspire and the two didn’t get on at all. The upshot was that the finishing toolpath drove the tool 25mm into a part of my stock that it thought had been removed and then turned the B axis snapping the bit. Maybe I should have been acle to see the problem before running the job but I went back to Aspire and I could not. It wasn’t until I loaded the gcode file into Basic CNC Viewer that I could see the issue. My point is that software has bugs and they get ironed out over a period of time and Aspire is a very mature product.

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It actually can, and does it incredibly well. It also does 5th and 6th axis. V11 is proving to be incredibly powerful.

Thank you, I will try to use this software.

I can’t find it, I can only see wrapped rotary and a couple of people on the forum are saying they’re disappointed that v11 has not improved on 4th axis. Where did you find the functionality?

I don’t know that the problem with slicing the BallInCage model is a bug in the Linkage slicing mode.

I believe that the problem starts from when the STL file is opened, and unrolled as a 2d picture. It is not possible to open a model with undercuts as a grayscale 2d image in the first place, because for a given location there would be two “colours”.

Unless what we see is a mere presentation into 2d space, but the full 3d model is actually what is used when slicing.

@albutch i apologize for the late reply, for some reason I didn’t get a notification. I need to clarify it’s not able to do it without some modifications. But they are easy to learn how to do and once learned you can turn it into a continuous rotary. But seeing as how I don’t own any rotary other than Snapmaker’s, I didn’t bother learning about it, but I’ve seen a ton of videos that explain Aspire doing continuous rotary. I believe it takes modification of toolpaths as well as the post processor. Snapmaker’s rotary is not capable of this, the continuous rotary terminology tends to confuse people, it’s easier to describe it as lathe operation. You have to have the proper machinery (obviously) to make Vectric work with high speed unidirectional lathes. Because Vectric is designed for CNC and not specifically turn milling, it’s an obscure and unintended feature but can still be done. Hence the need to modify toolpaths and post processors.

My comment about v11 was meant to be separate from the rotary functionality so I apologize for not clarifying that. It only came out a week ago, you should see all the new features. It now has sculpting brushes, and 3D modeling features including splitting an imported model (stl included) into multiple parts.

Thanks for the reply @Artezio, there’s no such thing as a late reply on here, no idea what timezone everyone is in :slight_smile:
I saw a post on Facebook where a user had made 6 toolpaths 60 degrees apart, indexing the machine between them to get around the limitations of the free version of Fusion360, is that the way you mean it can be done in Aspire? I also watched a video by Lex of DeskProto where he did most of the job using a wrapped toolpath and then created individual, indexed toolpaths to cope with areas needing undercutting, that was interesting.
I’m just trying a Linkage job from Luban on a ‘ball in a cage’ stl file from Thingiverse, looking good so far, I’ll report my findings here tomorrow when its finished. I know Luban is not really free, its part of the purchase but I don’t want to shell out more money unless I’m sure it will take me in the right direction. I thought I had enogh expensive hobbies with photography and electronics, seems like this one is just as bad. :rofl:

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@albutch yes that’s very close. Create multiple toolpaths and modify the post processor to enable the identical functionality of it being a continuous rotary. Though for actual lathe machines where this would apply, chances are people would just use the software to utilize it. Vectric is working on officially adding continuous rotary support though. They also released laser support, it’s in its infancy though.

As far as hobbies… it’s never cheap lmao

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Thanks, @albutch. I’m looking forward to hearing your results with the ball in a cage. If you get it working, I hope you will share your settings.

Will do. Here’s a quick video of the action. As you can see, the overall diameter of the bit isn’t accounted for as the bit moves down into the work. This means that material may be removed where it shouldn’t. Still some way to go before it gets to the ball - the really interesting bit. it might turn out square


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Close but not close enough, the ball is trapped.

I used the standard settings for the straight groove v-bit as supplied but changed the shaft dimension to 4mm to suit the bit I used. It does suggest that the toolpath created knows it cannot carve a gap less than the shaft diameter. I’ll design my own model with a bigger gap and try again.