U1 how to minimize prime tower in Orca?

Right now standart profile in snaporce app has 45 mm^3 :slight_smile:

And the dragon that comes “out of the box” for printing has prime_volume 40mm^3 / prime_tower_width = 40 in profille.
I ended up with 22 grams of dragon and 21 grams of tower

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I feel like the dragon test print was sliced on a way to not fail, so a prime tower equal in weight was used. I think Bambu does something similar with their speed benchy test slice.

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The option is in the filament profle. Try there. A safe percent should be between 10-15mm3.

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Yeah. We did a lot of testing at 15 mm^3, then the final profiles were way more conservative and seem crazy aggressive for other brands of filament. It’s, um… A little bonkers to me and kind of undermines the filament savings the U1 boasts about.

Easy enough to turn it back down at least!

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Oh sorry, didn’t see this. For a material the minimum should be under the Multimaterial settings in the material profile, I think? And the requested value is in print settings under Multimaterial.

And it’s trial and error. Practically it should be kind of constant, based on some small volume that’s close to the melt zone while parked, and what it takes for a material pressure to stabilize again when it resumes. The U1 uses a rather healthy retraction for most materials when parked though, so I would expect it to be mostly the latter.

Personally I think 15 mm^3 is fine certainly when I’ve printed PLA or ASA at 0.2mm or 0.16mm layer heights. The area printed per layer increases automatically with lower layer height to get an equal volume purged.

If you find certain materials aren’t extruding cleanly at first after tool changes, the minimum or nominal value can be increased again.

Some PLA profiles apparently have a minimum set of 60 though, and it’s hard for me to believe that’s really necessary.

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its not. I dropped it to 15 and now i get specs. I torture tested with a white body , red scales and bright green eyes. Im at 25mm wide and /15mm3 and its still specs. Dropped the temp from 220 to 215 helped a bit, But we NEED to be able to wipe in the tower. This is just from contamination.

Ive printed about 50 tests now and 15 does not cut it at stock settings, With a white body i get contamination, doesnt matter what brand of material . Ive tred 4 rolls of red and 5 green. ALL get some contamination with it this low on a white body… worst case…. Im still working on this… i wouldnt say 15mm3 is good enough to lock in. MAYBE if we could force a wipe move in the tower at the end of the prime moves it would help but we cant.

@Snapmaker: in the SnOrca menus (English) “minimal” and “maximal” (which don’t make sense) should be replaced with “minimum” and “maximum”.

Have you tried also enabling a Small Perimeter threshold? That is, if dots are coming from tiny extrusions.

A 5 mm threshold and 50 mm/s limit for small perimeters, and I haven’t had any trouble at all with smaller primes on PLA, except with some wet filament.

This is like driving a Toyota Prius and complaining about the gas mileage. No printer that exists is “zero waste” even a resin printer has waste.

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