# Shoring up the CNC module

**URL:** <https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589>\
**Category:** Snapmaker 2.0 (3-in-1)\
**Created:** [December 12, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589 "2021-12-12T06:42:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![pugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@pugs](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/pugs)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/1 "2021-12-12T06:42:04Z")

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There are a lot of misgivings on the CNC side of our SM 2.0, one of the worst is flex.

I’ve ordered these parts to try and add rigidity

[https://www.igus.com.au/product?artNr=WS-10-UNGEBOHRT](https://www.igus.com.au/product?artNr=WS-10-UNGEBOHRT)  
[https://www.igus.com.au/product?artNr=WJ200UM-01-10-AL](https://www.igus.com.au/product?artNr=WJ200UM-01-10-AL)

Screwed to the Z axis rail with a bracket to the rear of the module mount bracket hopefully adds some rigidity.

I’ll measure deflection when the rails arrive

Pug

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**Author:** ![brvdboss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@brvdboss](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/brvdboss)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 8:45am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/2 "2021-12-12T08:45:33Z")

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Nice find. Definitely looking forward to see how it goes

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**Author:** ![sdj544](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.snapmaker.com/sdj544/32/11365_2.png) [@sdj544](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/sdj544)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/3 "2021-12-12T16:06:41Z")

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> [@pugs](#):
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> Screwed to the Z axis rail with a bracket to the rear of the module mount bracket hopefully adds some rigidity.

Do you mean to the x-axis linear module and the toolhead bracket?

-S

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**Author:** ![brvdboss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@brvdboss](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/brvdboss)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/4 "2021-12-12T18:02:57Z")

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That could be useful as well, although it might make changing toolheads rather challenging…

As I understood it, screwed to the Z-axis (both sides) and to the mounting brackets where the x-axis is bolted onto to.

to the z-axis reduce play of the entire x-axis module. on top of the x-axis reduces play on the toolhead wobble.

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**Author:** ![Thick8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.snapmaker.com/thick8/32/4040_2.png) [@Thick8](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/Thick8)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/5 "2021-12-12T18:26:58Z")

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The pillow block would be mounted to the x-axis head support. The rail would be mounted to the x axis rail. This would eliminate rotation flex of the head in relation to the rail. Right?  
You would probably have to CNC the holes into the x-axis rail to make sure it’s mounted straight.  
This would be a fun little drawing project. Anyone have a fusion drawing of the Snapmaker linear rails?  
John

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**Author:** ![Hauke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.snapmaker.com/hauke/32/5704_2.png) [@Hauke](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/Hauke)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/6 "2021-12-12T19:23:55Z")

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Following that!  
Btw., one Facebook user has invested quite some effort in getting things more robust. Here’s a selection of sources from that user for inspiration (unfortunately some are German):  
[https://www.facebook.com/groups/178966772812413/search?q=hausknecht](https://www.facebook.com/groups/178966772812413/search?q=hausknecht)

> **[Snapmaker A350 zusätzliche Linearführung](https://cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/snapmaker-a350-zusaetzliche-linearfuehrung)**
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> Um die Präzision und Steifigkeit der X-Achse zu erhöhen kann mit diesem Dokument und den zwei STL-Dateien die Linearführung verbessert werden.
> 
> Benötigt werden dazu:
> Linearführung MGN9H 400 mm,
> diverse Normteile nach Anleitung,
> sowie die beide...

> **[Snapmaker A350 attachment additional linear guides by gojoetofly](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4752252)**
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> The purpose of this manual is to solve the following problems of the Snapmaker A350:
> a) Uneven printing surface
> b) Fluttering of the printing surface when changing the direction of the Y-axis
> c) hooking of the sensor and shifting of the printing...

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**Author:** ![Thick8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.snapmaker.com/thick8/32/4040_2.png) [@Thick8](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/Thick8)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/7 "2021-12-12T20:49:23Z")

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I went looking for some F360 files and found this guy that did a lot of mods to his A350. Unfortunately, he passed away earlier this year. Here’s the link to the F360 files and his awesome machine mods.  
[My new Snapmaker 2.0 A351 😁 - Snapmaker Showcase - Snapmaker: where creation happens](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/my-new-snapmaker-2-0-a351/16502)

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**Author:** ![pugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@pugs](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/pugs)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/8 "2021-12-12T22:38:12Z")

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Yes I did mean the X axis module (to avoid flex in the Z axis…)

I’m not going to go as far as some of the other machine mods listed here. I do not want to add to much weight hence the aluminium drylin profile

If it proves to be an advantage I will look at the same guide system for other axis that may benefit

Pug

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**Author:** ![pugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@pugs](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/pugs)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/9 "2021-12-13T00:42:47Z")

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Looking at some of the deflections across the entire machine (just with a square, dial indicator on its way)

It is no wonder one of those guys braced the Z modules… I may have to put guides everywhere to make any real impact

Pug

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**Author:** ![pugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@pugs](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/pugs)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/10 "2021-12-14T12:26:55Z")

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While I wait for parts to arrive 😜

 ![IMG_20211214_215230539](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/snapmaker/original/3X/9/e/9e41f368a4d2ff7aefdb9255cd2fced47e4d1a32.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_20211214_215243933](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/snapmaker/original/3X/c/4/c4a697a4bacd334214f6c805f3d7481c8f1db20e.jpeg)

Pug

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/11 "2021-12-14T20:32:15Z")

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While this should not be issue when using the CNC, as there should not be any heat, it may be a problem when 3D Printing. LCDs typically don’t like temperatures above 120°F, and at a certain temperature they stop working and turn black. When the heated bed is on, the temperature inside the enclosure can increase to a level where the LCD stops working.

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**Author:** ![pugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@pugs](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/pugs)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/12 "2021-12-14T22:35:28Z")

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I’ts a bracket to relocate the touchscreen from the bottom to the top, there should be no change in temperature!  
[touchscreen v1.stl](https://forum.snapmaker.com/uploads/short-url/2CpWUge5UK9j7uiPo4w1Jg2vZ90.stl) (22.9 KB)

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/13 "2021-12-14T23:49:22Z")

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@pugs what I was referring to is that the temperature at the top of the enclosure will be higher than it is at the bottom. The higher temperature at the top, especially when printing ABS, can get high enough that the TouchPad temperature will increase to a level where the LCD stops working. If you don’t print with ABS, ASA, or anything that requires that high of a bed temperature, then you are probably safe.

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**Author:** ![brent113](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.snapmaker.com/brent113/32/11114_2.png) [@brent113](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/brent113)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/14 "2021-12-14T23:53:08Z")

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Not the same thing, but in that same vein, I wonder if the designers tested the (main) controller longevity in an enclosure at 100F+. Seems like it also would benefit from relocation to the outside of the enclosure, but the cables aren’t long enough without getting creative.

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**Author:** ![pugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@pugs](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/pugs)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/15 "2021-12-14T23:58:38Z")

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The bracket is actually ASA-CF

I’ll check temps but I doubt any real issue moving it 300mm up

Pug

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**Author:** ![sdj544](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.snapmaker.com/sdj544/32/11365_2.png) [@sdj544](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/sdj544)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/16 "2021-12-15T00:41:49Z")

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> [@brent113](#):
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> Seems like it also would benefit from relocation to the outside of the enclosure, but the cables aren’t long enough without getting creative.

You can use a usb-c extension.  
Not all work. There’s a thread discussing this.

-S

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/17 "2021-12-15T00:50:12Z")

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I meant the main controller the axes all plug in to, sorry that was a bit ambiguous

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**Author:** ![pugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@pugs](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/pugs)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/18 "2021-12-18T09:40:01Z")

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Rails received, pics for basic placement (one either side)

 ![IMG_20211218_202848831](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/snapmaker/original/3X/4/2/422a6ea7b0b4711ef135d601e679d7fe4060765f.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_20211218_202857157](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/snapmaker/original/3X/5/5/55926680881731564110c16edb5bbb6f74c1d8da.jpeg)

Now to find some time to design and print/machine some brackets. I’ll measure deflection with a dial indicator and a luggage scale lol, not getting fancy with load cells!

Bearing is neat but might need a bit of preload, there is not much room to add a second pillow block and access to the module fixing screws will be impacted slightly (might need to cut down an Allen key)

If it helps I’ll work the remaining axis as this is a lightweight and relatively inexpensive rigidity modification.

Pug

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**Author:** ![pugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@pugs](https://forum.snapmaker.com/u/pugs)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 9:48am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/19 "2021-12-18T09:48:47Z")

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Might be able to fit a second pillow block with a slightly longer rail but module fixing will be further impacted 🤔

 ![IMG_20211218_204706884](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/snapmaker/original/3X/e/4/e4293854f22e59b62daff5e64e1b09a6ce63c759.jpeg)

Pugglings…

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://forum.snapmaker.com/t/shoring-up-the-cnc-module/22589/20 "2021-12-18T10:16:29Z")

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Ah, so you do intend to to mount it to the x-axis?

If I look at my machine the biggest flex seems to be not the module head itself, but the entire x-axis. So I (wrongly) assumed you were going to mount them to the z-axis vertically to brace the x-axis and making sure that one doesn’t wobble.

And are the screws to mount the toolhead still easily accessible this way?

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